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One More Time...

December 6th 2006 02:12
A friend of mine recently expressed some reservations about abortion. He said, "maybe in cases of rape or incest..." he could understand it. O.K. We'll try this one more time, pay close attention, folks, it isn't complicated.
Imagine that you're in your home, minding your own business when the Reproductive Police come to your door. "We're terribly sorry, sir," the uniformed officer tells you with a sad face. "It has come to our attention that your mother and father were cousins and your father raped your mother. You were the product of both rape and incest. I'm afraid you'll have to come with us." With no opportunity to speak in your own defense or say goodbye to your family, they drag you out of your safe, secure home. You are taken to a lab and tied to a gurney. "Would you like an anesthetic?" one of them asks. Not understanding, you don't answer. They gag you so you can make no sound. Then, it's optional what they do. Maybe they chop you to pieces, maybe they pulverize you slowly, maybe they drown you in a liquid that scalds your eyes and mouth and nose and lungs, or maybe they hyper-extend your neck and shove a pair of scissors into the back of your skull before sucking your brains out. Only the "doctors" who are killing you are there, cold, unfriendly and clinical about the brutal death they are inflicting on you. You can't scream, if you could, no one would hear you or care. What's left of you is either flushed down the drain or cut up for sale to organ collectors and researchers.
One or both of your parents behaved badly and you have just suffered the death penalty because of it. Any questions?

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Comment by Devil's Advocate

December 6th 2006 02:43
I agree with you, but I must add something. If we are to be a culture that values life, then isn't it also true that when our fifteen year old daughters come home pregnant that our response should be one of JOY and thanks to a God who would deem our daughters worthy, rather than the current instinct to call her a tramp and degrade her? I think if we are to protect life by curbing abortion, we must also celebrate life, even if said life signals the end dreams, and a road fraught with difficulty.

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 6th 2006 02:59
D.A. you're beginning to make some sense! Hurray!! If my daughters had come home and told me they were pregnant, that's exactly what I would have done. As it was, my oldest daughter never had a child and my youngest one was married three years before she had her first child. It takes effort to raise your children with common sense and respect for life, but it's worth it. More parents should keep a close eye on their kids and aim them in the right direction by example (among other things) as well as keeping the lines of communication always open. Life is a great gift and it should be celebrated and encouraged at every turn.

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 13:28
I'm against abortion and for me this is nothing less than killing . But , also I think everybody should have a right to decide will they want to be a killers.

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 13:39
Hello Daressi. Does that mean that you won't blow up an airplane or kindergarten class but you think everyone else should make up their owns minds about whether or not to do it? Interesting viewpoint. But personally, I believe that some things are just plain wrong. Ultimately everyone has the choice of how to behave, and whether or not to do wrong or right. But to brush it off as a matter of personal choice and nothing more (in spite of the screwed up Supreme Court that made abortion legal in the first place) is the same cop-out that was used in the Civil War era about slavery. That was legal at one time, as well.

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 14:00
Not quite. I will give you more appropriate example. If some pregnant woman is a smoker . She must decide will she want to smoke during pregnancy or not. Or you think smoking during pregnancy should be forbidden by law , because it is also kind of killing ...well the slow one.

Q. If some woman knows future baby will have big physical (and psychical) defect should she make abortion? Or she should breed such kid . In my opinion, for such kid is much better to be aborted.

Definitely , I think some regulations must be retrieved . People sight is often black and white , but in real life is different ...

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 14:27
Hello Daressi. Sorry, I can't agree with you. My mother and father were smokers and it didn't kill me. My lungs are in great shape. I also smoked when I was pregnant with my children and their lungs have never been a problem. My youngest daughter is a non-smoker, in fact. My foster daughter has never smoked in her life, but her oldest daughter has lung problems (not cigarette related in any way.) You don't kill someone because of problems that "might" happen someday. As for birth defects, I was born with spina bifida and have managed to survive quite well, thank you. Even Downs Syndrome children can do nicely with the right training. If imperfections are an excuse for murder, we're all in jeopardy, aren't we?

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 14:42
Look here : http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/14332_1171.asp

quote:"Statistics from the United States are compelling. If all pregnant women in the United States stopped smoking, there would be an estimated 11 percent reduction in stillbirths and a 5 percent reduction in newborn deaths, according to the U.S. Public Health Service.1 Currently, at least 11 percent of women in the United States smoke during pregnancy."

Hypocrisy???


Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 15:08
Daressi. Yes, hypocracy is a good word. Killing a child in a brutal manner to save it from possible ill effects of it's mother smoking is the ultimate in hypocracy.

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 15:30
Another look here :

http://www.gendergappers.org/lizinfo.htm

I think those kids should be aborted before they are born ...
( I must post this pics for better understanding what I'm thinking )

And about hypocrisy ...

You are against abortion ( killing of unborn child ) and you said: "I also smoked when I was pregnant with my children" and " You don't kill someone because of problems that "might" happen someday.

If all pregnant women in the United States stopped smoking, there would be an estimated 11 percent reduction in stillbirths and a 5 percent reduction in newborn deaths

There are only two ways I can understand this..... hypocrisy or ignorance ....

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 15:46
Yes, Daressi. Hypocracy and ignorance are the key words here. A small percentage of women smoke when they're pregnant and a small percentage of their babies are stillborn or die of SIDS. Killing those babies before something else can is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard! Perhaps Abe Lincolns mother should have aborted him? He did die of a gunshot wound, after all. Or maybe Mary should have aborted baby Jesus, look how He died? You don't burn your house down because it could be in a flood someday and you don't kill your children because they might die someday. You really should do something about your hypocracy and ignorance!

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 18:11
What you are talking about , you losing a point here. I didn't told kids should be aborted if their mother smoke . I said this is the women choice - to smoke or not t o smoke. I said smoking is very similar to killing and you are against killing and facts tells the same . But it didn't stop you to smoke during pregnancy .

and those craps : Perhaps Abe Lincolns mother should have aborted him? He did die of a gunshot wound, after all. Or maybe Mary should have aborted baby Jesus, look how He died?" I even don't want to comment ...

Avoiding the facts that you talk one thing and did another make you hypocrite. Or if you didn't know about lethal consequences make you ignorant.

At the end maybe I'm hypocrite and ignorant in my life, but in this topic I'm certainly not . Look on the other side.

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 18:56
Sorry Daressi. when you said a few comments back that babies of smoking mothers should be aborted, I thought that was what you meant. Silly me. Your arguments are just making you look for foolish by the word. So maybe you should crawl back under your Planned Parenthood rock and shut up! Or go protest for more abortions for mothers who smoke (whether they want to kill their children or not). That is, after all what you said. Look a couple of comments back if you can't remember.

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 19:04
Please quote sentence where I said so , and if you find it here I will agree with everything you said.

And about silly arguments , read this one about Lincoln and Jesus , or you maybe like more those about killing in the kindergarten.

Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 7th 2006 19:25
Dec. 7, 2006 at 1530, you said "I think those kids should be aborted before they are born." The remark was five clicks up from here. You were referring to children whose mothers smoked while they were pregnant. Your argument seemed to be that due to the possibilities of damage to the children from the smoking, the children should be killed. Was there another way to interpret your words? If you're going to make an argument, first it would be nice if it made some sense. Secondly, you can't say something really stupid and then excuse yourself because you don't remember saying it just a few comments earlier. At least try to justify what you say and stand by it. You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about and appear to enjoy displaying your ignorance and dishonest nature. I feel sorry for you.

Comment by Daressi

December 7th 2006 21:44
You are kind of slow , are you?

My words were :" I will give you more appropriate example. If some pregnant woman is a smoker . She must decide will she want to smoke during pregnancy or not."

And then a question for you:

"Q. If some woman knows future baby will have big physical (and psychical) defect should she make abortion? Or she should breed such kid . In my opinion, for such kid is much better to be aborted."

Obviously I talk about abortion of kids with big defects ...so don't put the words in my mouth ...

Conclusion:You are slow , hypocrite and ignorant , well done ...Or you just don't want to admit -that you are wrong .



Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 8th 2006 00:15
Daressi. I'm sure you think you sound intellegent. But you don't. Who are you to say who is better off dead? Must be nice to be so perfect you can sit back while imperfect people are killed. And there was no other way to read your remark about who should be aborted. You were referring to the babies of smoking mothers (either that or you you need to learn to write a whole lot more clearly). So just go and preach wholesale slaughter of innocents to your hearts content. Why bother limiting it to imperfect babies? Just brag about how all babies should be killed. Do you have full color photos of aborted babies in your room so you can admire what you so favor? Funny, your mother was pro-life, at least once...

Comment by Daressi

December 8th 2006 00:40
S.L.Bradish . My example about smoking mothers was just to show you that there are other ways to kill unborn baby , I think it's pretty clear ( I gave you more appropriate example about question of mothers free choice ) .

And then I asked you about your opinion about abortion of babies with big defects and I wrote my opinion such babies should be aborted .

Obviously , you don't ( or you won't) see what I actually wrote .

When I asked you to write a quote of my sentence you even didn't quoted sentence I wrote in comments , and in way you wrote (my ?)sentence "I think those kids should be aborted before they are born." you didn't put exactly what THOSE means , you completely put (my?) words out of context .

You cannot conduct discussion that way . That's unfair toward me .

Pictures of defected babies are here only for you to understand better in which cases I support abortion . Of course you know that , but lack of arguments produce sentences like :

"Do you have full color photos of aborted babies in your room so you can admire what you so favor?"

or

So just go and preach wholesale slaughter of innocents to your hearts content. Why bother limiting it to imperfect babies? Just brag about how all babies should be killed.

Again you completely skewed my words with purpose .

This is my last comment. I cannot continue this discussion because you don't use facts and arguments and whatever I write here you will probably explain better than me , because you know better what I actually want to say .


Comment by S.L.Bradish

December 8th 2006 01:27
Daressi, of what you say, I can only assume that you mean the foolish things. If you don't mean them, why say them? I didn't misquote you and if you'd look back to what you wrote earlier, you'd see that. Face it, you can't argue with yourself and it ticked you off when I used your own words against you. Maybe it's time for you to rethink your positions or find someone, equally foolish, to agree with you.

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