No Wonder B.O. is Full of B.S.
December 15th 2008 13:00
Before anyone misunderstands the meaning of the term B.S. let me clarify. Barry Soetero. That's the real name of an illegal alien who just lied and cheated his way into the American Presidency. Now, before anyone gets the bright idea that I'm some sort of a "conspiracy nut" or indulging in "sour grapes", try reading his books. He wrote them under the alias of Barrack Hussein Obama.
Although his birth name was Barrack Hussein Obama, he was legally adopted by his step-father, so his legal name is Barry Soetero. Or perhaps the documentation concerning his LEGAL return to his mother's country of the USA has been filed away with his real birth certificate and hidden in the same place...? And if you're gullible enough to believe that the Certificate of Live Birth that he showed on his website means anything, try to remember that Africa is a continent and "African" means someone who was born on that continent. It is NOT, repeat NOT, a race. And the term was NOT, repeat NOT, used during the 1960's to describe a black person. That term was "Negro." White people are listed as Caucasian, not European, Canadian, American or Australian when the question of "race" is asked. Since citizenship is transferred from father to child, B.O. should have had UK citizenship because his father was born in (and at the time of B.O.'s birth) a citizen of Kenya (a British colony).
So B.S. is still a legal citizen of Indonesia (due to the adoption) and moved to Hawaii as a child without his mother and without any legal standing as a citizen of the USA. If there is any evidence that his name was changed to B.O. afterwards, it must be locked away with his original birth certificate and his American citizenship papers.
So now we have a quandry, don't we, folks? Do we call him by his real, legal name, B.S.? Or do we call him by his alias, B.O.? Either way, some of you have elected an illegal alien to the highest office in the land. Would you like to start throwing up now, or wait until B.S. sells us out?
Although his birth name was Barrack Hussein Obama, he was legally adopted by his step-father, so his legal name is Barry Soetero. Or perhaps the documentation concerning his LEGAL return to his mother's country of the USA has been filed away with his real birth certificate and hidden in the same place...? And if you're gullible enough to believe that the Certificate of Live Birth that he showed on his website means anything, try to remember that Africa is a continent and "African" means someone who was born on that continent. It is NOT, repeat NOT, a race. And the term was NOT, repeat NOT, used during the 1960's to describe a black person. That term was "Negro." White people are listed as Caucasian, not European, Canadian, American or Australian when the question of "race" is asked. Since citizenship is transferred from father to child, B.O. should have had UK citizenship because his father was born in (and at the time of B.O.'s birth) a citizen of Kenya (a British colony).
So B.S. is still a legal citizen of Indonesia (due to the adoption) and moved to Hawaii as a child without his mother and without any legal standing as a citizen of the USA. If there is any evidence that his name was changed to B.O. afterwards, it must be locked away with his original birth certificate and his American citizenship papers.
So now we have a quandry, don't we, folks? Do we call him by his real, legal name, B.S.? Or do we call him by his alias, B.O.? Either way, some of you have elected an illegal alien to the highest office in the land. Would you like to start throwing up now, or wait until B.S. sells us out?
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Comment by Natalie 2
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I was going to leave a comment here with my take on the issue, but I instead thought I would invite you to read my most recent blog about Obama, his name, and his citizenship. Not trying to start a fight. Just wanted to share my view. Post is HERE.
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Comment by Natalie 2
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As far as your points, I read them, I hear them, and I understand that they are a source of concern for anyone of your political persuasion. But I have to ask you if you believe that all of the officials in Hawaii who commented on Obama's birth certificate and the terminology therein are lying. Do you believe that everyone who has claimed to witness the events and the documents is a liar?
Did he go to a school that was predominantly Muslim? Well, he did live in Indonesia at the time, does that mean anything with regard to his citizenship. Being Muslim doesn't disqualify you, knowing a Muslim, being related to a Muslim...does any of that matter? If he were not Christian, he could still be President. But he claims Christianity, he claims to be born again, and who is qualified to make any judgment about what is in a man's heart?
If Obama held a dual citizenship to Indonesia or any other country, it still would not disqualify him from being president. If you have been a dual citizen from birth or childhood, or else became a citizen of another country after already having US citizenship, and the other country in question does not have any laws or regulations requiring you to formally renounce your US citizenship before US consular officials, then current US law unambiguously assures your right to keep both citizenships for life.
As to the birth announcement, in Hawaii, the birth announcement comes from the hospital directly. At the time, if a baby was born there the department of vital statistics and the hospital make that announcement. It is not the same as in the case of your friend, or of John McCain.
The name issue...a non issue. Doesn't matter to me what someone goes by. If he was born Barack Hussein Obama, then had his name changed by his parents, and then decided to go by his birth name again...who cares? What on earth does that have to do with his qualifications?
And the "African" term has been settled. Unless you believe that the Hawaiian government is lying, they leave it to the parents to state their ethnicity. So, yes, if they wanted to say French or Swedish, they could have.
Nothing here exists in the realm of fairytale. It is cut and dry.
Comment by S.L.
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Serving in the Senate for 143 days is NOT being qualified to be President. (Even if he were legal!) But, even if you want someone completely ignorant of the politics and details necessary for the office, do you actually want a president who starts his regime with an outright lie? He lied under oath and contradicted himself (from what he said in his books). When was he telling the truth? Then or now?
And please don't waste my time by saying that he is a Christian. That is a disgusting crock of doggy doo. Rev. Jeremiah Wright was his pastor and spiritual advisor? Give me a break. He screamed "God damn America" from the pulpit, for crying out loud! No real Christian and no real American would have said such a thing. And this is the man who made B.S. a Christian? A man who screams propoganda and lies from the pulpit? He isn't even a clever liar! He thought we bombed Japan on Dec. 7th, 1941!! Either B.S. is lying when he says he attended that dispicable church for 20 years (and didn't hear a word) or he's lying when he says he's a Christian. Take your pick, Natalie 2. Can't have it both ways.
So where am I wrong, Natalie 2? Was Mr. Soetero lying when he wrote the books or is he lying now? That's something else you can't have both ways.
Maybe you should listen to the press conference before saying something else that only serves to make you look foolish.
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Comment by Natalie 2
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Arguing the fact of Barack Obama's citizenship would not at all be affected by anything that he did in Indonesia. Even if he was adopted, and even if he was a citizen. As I stated above, you CAN be a dual citizen and still become President. There is no law against it. Period. So anything that took place, any school that he attended, any name that he went by...these things do not affect his eligibility.
You don't have to like his choices. You can call him a liar. Your opinions in that regard are your own and I respect them. I am speaking specifically about whether or not he is a US citizen and therefore eligible to be President, which he is, and which you have not disputed.
His religion, his books, and his experience are not at all issues that would determine the matter at hand which are the claims that he is not a US citizen. These are very serious charges, and I think that people who make them should be able to provide more factual information than I have seen. As a matter of fact, I have been able to refute every bit of "evidence" that has been presented in an effort to disprove his citizenship.
I believe that it is difficult to refer to the person who has the facts on her side as the foolish one. Although, I don't mean to say that you are foolish either. I just am not convinced of your point.
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Comment by Natalie 2
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SCOTUS has ruled time and time again that there is no backing to these claims. Including yesterday. They feel that they have sufficient evidence and reason to believe that Obama is a natural born citizen, and that claims against this fact are untrue.
The problem here seems to lie in the interpretation of what it means to be a Natural Born Citizen. Obama fits the criteria according to every mainstream interpretation of the natural-born citizen clause. And a more restrictionist interpretation (limiting it only to those born on American soil) would have disqualifed John McCain (born in the Panama Canal Zone), Barry Goldwater (born in Arizona before it became a state), and George Romney (born in Mexico City) from the presidency. So, EVEN IF Obama was born on foreign soil, for which there is no hard evidence, his mother being a Natural Born Citizen makes him a citizen due to Jus Sanguinis.
Listen, I am a big a critic of the MSM as anyone. I can't deny that they have whitewashed the public with regard to a number of issues through out recent history. But, it is not the media that has been throwing out all of these claims. It is SCOTUS.
One thing I did find entertaining in this Press Conference was when the Reverend from Harlem referred to Obama as a "long legged Mac Daddy" in his prayer.
The fact that the group of people making these claims feels that the information needed by the State Department and SCOTUS is not enough to satisfy them as to the legitimacy of Obama's citizenship and eligibility is why SCOTUS determined long before Obama came on to the scene that ordinary people are not qualified due to their access to information to question the citizenship status of any sitting President or candidate. (Sorry, that was a really long sentence).
Repeatedly during this conference the speakers referred to the Courts being the only ones who can interpret the definition of Natural Born Citizen. Agreed.
Is there corruption in the world? Yes. It there corruption in the U.S.? Yes. It there corruption in the Media? Hell yes. But there is corruption everywhere. Why was the mic in this conference only given to the reporter who was on the side of the speakers, while we were left to have the questions of other members of the media interpreted by the speakers?
Really, there was no evidence supplied in this NPC conference. It was just the stating and restating of the claims of the speakers.
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